How Mint Is Mint?
Posted 11 January 2006 - 08:52 PM
Now I'm trying to learn as much as I can about everything. I was hoping all you experts might be willing to share a bit of your knowledge on quality? What is an acceptable "flaw" for a solid? Must latches always click tightly shut? Do boxes need to be in perfect condition? How about nicks in the perfume?
Is there anything that I should steer clear of under any circumstance?
I would appreciate any advice anyone is willing to impart.
Posted 12 January 2006 - 05:30 AM
Hello Nancy and welcome to the site.....
Some of the older solids are so hard to find and mint condition can be very rare,
so it is up to you what you will accept and what you will not. In my view perfume that has shrunk or gone black with age is acceptable and I would accept a not so perfect box in an older solid. ( thats if you get the box at all )
When you buy a new solid from the shops never accept anything that is not perfect........ Always check them well.
Hope this helps a little bit as there are better experts than me on the site and I'm sure that they will give you their take on it.
Edited by VEGAS LADY, 12 January 2006 - 05:30 AM.
Posted 12 January 2006 - 08:32 AM
Yes as Margaret stated for your selection it is pretty much up to your descision,
although if purchasing on eBay you should ask all the questions you have stated or atleast check photos of solids you wish to purchase and presume nothing.
I recently purchased the 'Peach" on eBay and when it arrived the box was smashed in on one side. It appears it was not wrapped for shipping correctly, hence perfect solid but box not.
Yes even a collector like me learns after two years of collecting perfume solids.
Happy Hunting Nancy!
Posted 12 January 2006 - 10:32 AM
HI PAM..... THAT'S A GOOD POINT ABOUT EBAY, AS WE ALL SAY "IT'S BUYER BEWARE" !!!!!!!!!!
MARK.......HAVE JUST SEEN YOU ON THE SITE, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING WHAT WAS VENICE LIKE.....
Posted 12 January 2006 - 06:06 PM
As far as Mint is concerned, if I am selling an item and describe it as Mint (MIB),
then it has a perfect box and the perfume is untouched! In other words, how
you would expect it to be when newly released. So if I am buying
and the words MIB are used, that is how I expect to receive the item.
Any flaws, i.e. the perfume is marked, the gold box is damaged or slightly
grubby inside, then I would mention that to the buyer. But a solid
perfume does not have to have a box to be Mint. Also, some collectors
like to have the outer white box too. Obviously that is a bonus if
Hope this helps. As Vegas Lady explained, many of the older solids
that one finds, do not have their original boxes. One with the original
box will command a higher price than one without. It depends how
you personally feel about this. I collect what I love, box or no box. But
if I have the chance to purchase one with the box, then I do just that and
try and sell the one without the box when the opportunity arises.
Do what you feel comfortable with and enjoy the ones you have. With perfume, without perfume, with box, without box.......As you learn more and
find more, your tastes might change and you will make mistakes in the
process i.e. paying too much, not noticing something you should have before
buying etc. And......don't get caught out on Ebay! Check the pictures
and make sure you are not buying something that is half finished or
misssing the stand etc. etc. It takes time and I am sure even the
experts sometimes get it wrong
P.S. Pam, hope you had a refund for the damaged box!
Posted 12 January 2006 - 06:31 PM
I bought a Bejeweled Bottle from NM last week and the box was rubber banded together and has what looked to be a tape mark on the bottom of the gold box. There was no white outer box. I've been fretting over that silly box for a week. I think I'll give them a call and see if there is another one available, if not I'll probably keep it. It's wonderful!
Posted 16 January 2006 - 12:24 AM
What is an acceptable "flaw" for a solid? Must latches always click tightly shut? Do boxes need to be in perfect condition? How about nicks in the perfume?
Is there anything that I should steer clear of under any circumstance?
Hi Nancy. Welcome to the site!
Here's my answer to your questions:
1. There are really no acceptable 'flaws' for a solid if bought new. Just make sure you are aware of anything untoward before paying a motza for anything bought 'second hand'.
2. Yes, I believe latches and hinges etc. should always work properly.
3. Boxes aren't always perfect, but again if bought new, they should be. If bought second hand then it should be pointed out I guess. Depends how bad the problem is.
4. No there shouldn't be any nicks in the perfume if bought new. If bought second hand then it should be absolutely mentioned. You ARE buying the 'solid perfume' after all.
5. Steer clear of half finished things or incompleted things . . . . try not to get pressured by sellers you don't know. Buy things YOU like as you will enjoy them more.
Posted 16 January 2006 - 06:36 AM
There is no excuse for not having a white box from Neiman Marcus. I would return it and ask for a refund on postage. The only way I would accept that is if it were the last one in the whole world.
Shrinkage and darkening of perfume is pretty much a natural occurrence so I would still consider a perfume in that condition to be Mint. If it has a finger print then it is no longer mint.
Just my opinion after 20 years of collecting perfume
Posted 16 January 2006 - 01:47 PM
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Posted 16 January 2006 - 02:56 PM
I did purchase a few solids over the recent holidays at Saks and Neiman Marcus. Each store had problems finding the outer white box and I came home with only the gold box for one solid from each store. Hmmm - how does that happen? And I'm told EL no longer makes the molded boxes and is using the gold box with pouch only?
Also, I find it amazing how many of one solid a seller can have especially in the "limited editions"? Where do they get them? Are they EL employees? Store employees with access to store inventory?
I was showing my new pieces to my neighbor and in an attempt to open the compact, he promptly stuck his fingernail in it. Oh well - I suppose that's why I haven't gotten too upset over used auction pieces not being perfect. Nothing lasts forever.
I could go on and on - but this is my first post and I have so much more to learn.
Posted 16 January 2006 - 04:33 PM
I have had the same experience with retailers not being able to locate the white box and have even been given a different box and they have scratched out the wrong title and just written the solid I am buying on it !
Anyway, what do they know? Some are just casual shop assistants part time working as they go through uni. Can't blame them!
Yes - it does appear EL have decided to just pacakge in the gold box with the pouch only. I was only just saying that to my mother yesterday as we were looking at the little Harrods bear. I liked the old molded boxes myself, but the new gold boxes are very nice too. You can see them trying to cut down on expense, can't you?
That's the thing with showing them to people - I have learnt just to show them to certain people through the glass cabinet windows. No touching - just looking! Other people closer to me I explain them what they are are and to be careful when handling. It just saves angst and inner fury.
Posted 16 January 2006 - 05:32 PM
gold boxes. Also, they still come with the outer white box. I cannot understand the retailers selling these items without the white boxes. Maybe they are collecting them to sell on Ebay They certainly start educating
themselves and can get hold of the items far below cost price!
Yes, I agree about being careful when showing the solids. I have had the
same thing happen.
It's great to see so many new Collectors. That can only be a good thing
and we welcome you to the Wonderful World of Solid Perfumes and Compacts!
Posted 16 January 2006 - 06:35 PM
Glad you enjoyed your holiday. As you say the Amalfi coast sure is awesome I spent two weeks there a couple of years back staying in Amalfi itself......so beautiful. Perhaps I will get to see Venice this year.
Posted 16 January 2006 - 06:47 PM
Hello Topbev, welcome to the site.....
Nice to see such a good first post, you will learn from the best teachers on this site.
I do agree with what Jacky says about the white outer boxes ending up on ebay, but some of the oddest things turn up there, as we all know.....
Keep posting.....My Regards to you.....Margaret....
Posted 17 January 2006 - 10:36 PM
Hi TopBev, welcome to the site.
I enjoyed your first post. You're right about the molded inserts, but I just now realized that all my new solids came in the gold padded top box in a silky pouch. I just thought someone was being lazy, but I guess it' the new way.
As for your neighbor with the clumsey fingers (poor guy) you can take the hair dryer to the solid and it will melt the nail mark. That is one of Lisa's handy tips. It works!
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